Police: Teenage Victim Driven to Marriottsville, Shot in Head

Eva Toldaya June 20, 2012 at 06:38 pm

Know I am going to draw hate for this, but it is what happens when the ghetto spreads into Howard County. Thanks Jim Rouse. Hope Columbia has become what you wanted it to be. That vision is now spreading to the nicer areas of Howard County, i.e. Ellicott City.

Doesnt Matter Who I am June 20, 2012 at 07:08 pm

EVA Toldaya Are you referring tho ghetto as in African Amaericans or the White Ghettos such Trailer Parks, be careful of the word Ghetto if you are referring to race... Crime happens everywhere? I think the thing that should have been stated is" I hope and pray that this child survives" Do you Volunteer or Participate in any type of youth programs or community meeting probally not. You just want to sit back and blame Jim Rouse for the so called "Ghetto". I dont think your comment draws hate but rather ignorance therefore that makes you GHETTO, educate yourself....By the way I know you personally and some of the things you do makes you GHETTO....

Matt M June 20, 2012 at 07:15 pm

The 11400 block of Ellicott City?
Hmm...

Brandie Jefferson (Editor) June 20, 2012 at 07:54 pm

Hmm indeed, Matt. Fixed!

Eva Toldaya June 20, 2012 at 10:15 pm

No, I can absolutely guarantee that you do not know me. If I was referring to a white ghetto, or should I say Caucasian since you used the term african american, we will use Caucasian, I would have said trailer park. Ghetto is most commonly used to refer to a high crime, low income, low educated black area. The only thing I hope and pray is that this doesn't touch my white son of a similar age. Of course he doesn't run with the type of people that I am sure this black teenager ran with. In my community, we don't shot one another for a perceived incident of disrespect. Until the black community learns the true meaning of respect respect for human life, nothing will change for them. If this "child" lives, he will most likely try to revenge his shooting, wind up in jail or dead the next time he is shot. Why is it that people like this, need special programs, i.e. me volunteering to mentor them or set up some bogus "academy" so that they can try to do better in school? How about they try to fit in with vast majority of normal society rather than we try to make society fit them? As far as being educated, I will not even go there with you. Looking at your writing skills, I would guess you are a victim of an affirmative action education. Anyone that knows me would tell you that you can't get any further from the ghetto than me. I am just another Caucasian person tired of hearing about crap like this and being expected to be sorry about it.

Brandie Jefferson (Editor) June 20, 2012 at 10:35 pm

Let us try to stick to the topic at hand -- a 15-year-old boy was shot. Personal attacks, besides violating our terms of service, are also distasteful.

Peter Monaghan June 21, 2012 at 12:58 pm

Agreed Brandie, personal attacks are distasteful. However, this crime does stimulate the valid discussion on crime in the Columbia/Ellicott City area, where it comes from, why it happens, and how it reflects on our society. But still, personal attacks should stay out of the discussion.

Brandie Jefferson (Editor) June 21, 2012 at 01:15 pm

You are absolutely right, Peter. I may have stepped in too quickly because I was a bit taken aback by how soon the tone of the comments began getting personal. I expected a few "How awful" "My thoughts are with this kid" before the discussion took the turn it did. I'll step back. Discuss away!

Erin June 21, 2012 at 01:23 pm

Having been born and raised in Howard County, I find it very interesting how the parents here want to shelter their children from anything that happens outside of their bubble. Crime happens everywhere. People are allowed to travel freely over county and city lines and sometimes it (crime) will enter your community. And it works both ways. Kids in Marriottsville and Ellicott City drive into Park Heights to buy weed while staying in the comfort of their parent’s BMW they’re driving. If you are raising your child to be respectful and responsible, chances are you will never have to worry about a violent crime affecting your family. I’ve chosen to raise my child here for multiple reasons. I would much rather live in HoCo than any surrounding county. But don’t get it twisted, Howard County is not utopia and we have issues here too…mainly drugs and people that have their nose so high in the air they can’t see where they’re headed.

T. June 21, 2012 at 02:06 pm

You're really sad. The article didn't specify the race of the child, only that he is a fifteen year old from Baltimore County. Yet you assumed that because he was in this situation that he is African-American. Violence is a problem in all communities, not just the African-American one. Obviously you're not truly from the area, if you were than you would know that Jim Rouse's true vision was a community built on racial tolerance not the ignorance that you spew. You are what is wrong with Howard County. If you're so worried about the influences of the ghetto spreading to your white son THEN HIT THE BRICKS and go live somewhere else. We don't want or need your kind in our community.

Linda Joy Burke June 21, 2012 at 03:16 pm

To generalize and say that Black community needs to learn the true meaning of respect is insulting and small minded. Makes me believe that all the writer knows about the African American community is based on the media and not on established relationships across cultures. I've seen kids of all races act disrespectfully, not because of race but because they have chosen to ignore home training, or haven't been taught any better. Too many people who know nothing of what they speak about are too quick to throw around the word Ghetto.It's easier to complain and point fingers, rather than participating in conversations that create change. I'm glad that James Rouse had the vision to create a community where people can have the opportunity to live amongst people different from themselves - I've traveled around the country enough to know that this is not the norm. I know many of the young people that I've had the privilege of seeing grow up here have thrived on the diversity here. I've also seen students who benefited from affirmative action programs, become judges, community and business leaders, teachers and wonderful models for students who are struggling to surpass generational ills brought on by Jim Crow. (read your history). To judge a kid without knowing his story, or who he knows is in itself disrespectful.

L W June 21, 2012 at 08:36 pm

Should say "Old Frederick Road" (Rte 99) in Marriottsville not "Frederick Road" in Ellicott City.

Kaylee Haynes June 22, 2012 at 01:53 am

That's very sad of you to think that. This had article had NO included race. Do not just assume things. Not all African Americans are "bad". That comment shows how disrespectful & ignorant you are as a human.

Kaylee Haynes June 22, 2012 at 01:57 am

Eva,
You're sick. And you know what they say about karma right?

becky morris June 22, 2012 at 02:05 am

Very sad how some jump to conclusions so fast! Out of RESPECT (eva may have to look that word up) for the VICTIM and his family I wont go into details but I personally know that this CHILD is not from the ghetto. When all the details come out you will eat your words. I truly pity your son, being raised by a cold heartless person such as yourself. Enough time spent on the ignorant one, I'm a firm believer in KARMA!
My thoughts and prayers go out to this child and his family. Praying for eva's child as well after all he didn't ask for a mentally ill mother.

melissa June 22, 2012 at 02:43 am

Amen Becky!

melissa June 22, 2012 at 11:52 am

Eva maybe if you put yourself in the child's mothers shoes and it was your kid who got shot and you had to look at all your nasty comments you wouldn't act like that. Crime is every where. Crime is committed by every race. Doesn't matter if its committed in a good or bad area. Someone with a kid should have a little bit more sympathy. A little bit more respect. "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all"

Kaylee Haynes June 22, 2012 at 01:16 pm

Amem!

Kaylee Haynes June 22, 2012 at 01:16 pm

Amen!

Mary Ellen Cote June 23, 2012 at 02:10 pm

How sad that this boy was shot, whatever the reason (or lack of reason). There is more to the story than we know and when we find out the whole story - what will we do about it? I suspect that it will then depend on the race of the shooters, more than the victim.

Knickoles June 24, 2012 at 03:42 am

Eva is beyonds words. Are you seriously assuming because a teenager from Baltimore County got shot, he must be black?! That's not even rational. You sound like you think he deserves it... Which is even more disgusting. I'm sorry your children have such a hateful role model to lead them through life, hopefully there are many other adults in their lives who teach them respect, tolerance, and humbleness.
It's a terrible thing for the boy and his family to have to deal with (whether black white or freakin purple) and I'll keep them in my thoughts and prayers. By the way Eva, I don't want anything to do with "your" community.

ExRoot June 24, 2012 at 12:57 pm

Eva Toldaya,
The first thing I did after reading your comment was to look and see if perhaps you were a member of the community I live in. Someone who I cross paths with in my immediate area or someone I sit next to at PTA meetings. Someone who is perhaps involved in the school system. You see this is what we teach our kids about thinking before they speak and especially post. Though these are your thoughts, consider this is a public forum but certainly not anonymous in your case since you proudly posted your name. I was able to search the web by using the name on your post. Interestingly enough, when you search your name there is a link to this very article and your post with your comment(s) regarding this story. Forever! I'm sure you realize the implications. Especially since many of the comments addressed your name directly. My comment does not address this story directly. Many have already done that and said what needed to be said. Perhaps you are proud of what you said and would have no problem standing up and saying it aloud. Who knows. The point is your words and thoughts are here for all of you neighbors, community and especially your son to see. Perhaps even your co-workers as well as your husbands co-workers. It doesn't just have to be Facebook. Oh and finally...I SURE HOPE MY BLACK/ AFRICAN AMERICAN SON DOES NOT BRUSH UP AGAINST YOUR SON AND RUIN HIM. And for good measure, your racist comments or noted Eva Toldaya of Ellicott City, Maryland.

Dudeindacorner June 24, 2012 at 01:00 pm

All of this "Gang" activity and "gang related shootings and crime has to stop..
How? Easy.. classify all of these gangs as Domestic Terrorists. Because that is exaclty what they do. They terrorize their neighborhood and all who live there.. Constant shootings, Robberies and all around violence that is associated with Gangs. If you mess with a gang member? Then you have to deal with the whole gang. So if the gangs are now Terrorists? then if 1 gang member commits any crime then ALL of that gang did the crime. SEND THEM ALL TO CUBA with no outside communications, including all gangsters currently in prisons. How "cool" will it be to be a Gang member now? Kid's carrying guns? a thing of the past.

Concerned Elkridgean June 25, 2012 at 11:38 am

The increase of crime is do to the increased population of the area and lack of our society that is American Society to give the kids or adults, the self esteem they need and the feeling of being safe and accepted. If you breed violence and negativity that is what you get.. Crime. If people feel safe and have positive influences, it would not happen, But alas this is in a perfect world. Unfortunately, the powers that control rather us be divided than together in education and ideology versus race, nationality and often gender. This is only to name a few. I say realize we are all human except in different body types!!

Sandra Conway June 25, 2012 at 02:19 pm

My goodness. She posted her OPINION, so let her be. She doesnt have to think like you, she doesnt have to volunteer for low income or parentless children, & i doubt she sits at PTA meetings and snickers about other races. Do you guys really think racism is not in existence? The comments following Evas are about as mature as some of the things she posted. End the violence?? You all sound like cyber bullies. If you dont like personal opinions, maybe a public forum is not for you. Your comments about Eva have taken over this discussion. If you dont like her post, ignore it!
As a mother, I always think about the victims & families of such a senseless acts. No person in their right mind condones violence.

sdbtrb August 5, 2012 at 08:08 am

lets just pray for this boys families. i remember growing up my mom always told me the ones that do you wrong the most is who we need to pray for. so no matter what what happens in your world or which world we live in, just pray for our children and continue being a mentor.